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violent four year old.Submitted by MamaButterfly on Wed, 08/06/2008 - 12:32pm.
My son is becoming very violent. He has an obsession with swords and movies about fighting, and he's been hurting people and breaking glass on purpose every day. Like for example, the other day he threw a jar on the floor to break it, and then jumped on it and cut a huge slice in his foot. login to post comments
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I second karate b/c it is a lot about control and learning self defense not violence. I'm not saying that this is your son at all, but mine (who will be 4 soon) will act out like that when he is bored or for attention. He doesn't obsess over swords but he'll jump around and run around screaming and he's broken things/gotten hurt several times when he does that. However, he seems to be doing these things not to be bad but because he either wants to get my attention or he can't think of something constructive to do. Just a thought. Hopefully you can get all this figured out soon login to post comments
I would also try to remove any violent/agressive stimuli.. no toys that could be used as weapons (in play), video games that include any violence at all, no tv shows (even cartoons) w/ violence/aggression (including kid stuff like teenage mutant ninja turtles, power rangers, etc). login to post comments
I don't think he needs to see a psychiatrist or anything like that... he's just a little boy. The reason he's so into violence is because his dad lets him watch teenage mutant ninja turtles and other movies about fighting, and buys him lots of toy weapons and fighting guys. His dad won't listen to me at all, so I can't control what goes on at his house at all. login to post comments
Ok, so too young for karate... and not interested anyways because there are no swords... login to post comments
Well, swords ARE supposed to be outside toys. He doesn't follow the rules. I feel like a fuckup anyway, like it's my fault because I haven't been a good mother. And I just moved in with a boyfriend who doesn't even like kids. So I don't know. He made a bunch of promises before we moved in that were bullshit. Every man in my life is a fucking asshole, so how am I supposed to teach Jasper to be a good boy? login to post comments
Well, I have faith in you.... You will have to limit the assholes.... but I think you can do it hunny.... login to post comments
Thank you. Really. That was exactly the response I needed. Sometimes I get lazy about enforcing rules, but I'm going to have to get more serious about it. And as far as assholes... I'm working on that. login to post comments
We've all had bouts with assholes... I swear back when I was dating, I was a magnet. login to post comments
Do NOT enroll a violent child in karate. It doesn't matter that they try to teach discipline or whatever else anyone says, as a mother of a violent child I've been down that road. Don't do it, you'll regret it. Next thing you know they think they're power rangers or whatever, and they're trying to use the tactics on kids in the neighborhood. I've never heard the parent of a violent child say put them in karate, though even my mother (none of us were violent) tried to tell me to do it, I did it, and it was the worst possible thing I could've done. With today's heavily asian influenced child media (one example, Kung Fu Panda), when they hear 'karate' kids think 'karate CHOP.' And they're off whacking their friends in the necks. login to post comments
I agree, karate is not for him. At least not yet. It might be a good outlet when he's old enough to understand the difference. login to post comments
I don't think he needs to see a psychiatrist or anything like that... he's just a little boy. login to post comments
A psychologist is completely different from a psychiatrist. I would consider taking him to a counselor or something, but not a psychiatrist. That's just a part of my personal value system. login to post comments
in response to momtobe19's comment: login to post comments
what I meant by "just a little boy" is that my son is very little and, in my opinion, way too young for a doctor that would prescribe meds. I'm not making a judgement on anyone else's choices, but in my family that is not an option. login to post comments
I also don't think a psychologist would be a bad idea. Matt sees a psychiatrist and a psychologist. His therapy is done with a psychologist, and he sees the Psychiatrist once a month for his medication. Psychiatry is also a lot different than it used to be. You don't just walk out with a prescription, and they do not medicate children as young as your son is. I'm not just talking from his psychiatrist either, I used to work for a completely separate office, and they're the same way, they do not medicate young children anymore. login to post comments
That is a great idea, and I know individual attention is a problem for both my kids. Yesterday I spend half an hour playing with him at the park near my daughter's piano lesson, and we had so much fun, and he seemed so happy afterword. I pretended to be trapped in a burning building, and he was a fireman that had to come and rescue me, which of course turned into him having to kill bad guys to get to me. login to post comments
Well, I know he's still fighting and everything, but maybe the first step here is to teach him appropriate places to behave this way. It's fine to "fight badguys" in the PARK, it's not okay to do the same thing in the living room. Kids can't quit things cold turkey, especially when they're that young, and especially when it's something they find that fun. Try focusing on where it's appropriate for him to do this thing he loves to do, the same as you'd teach inside voice/outside voice, there's inside play and outside play. It might make it easier for him to be calm in the house if he knows he's not completely banned from that activity. login to post comments
SativaStarr wrote:
I just wanted to point out.. I NEVER said you should go to a psychiatrist.. actually if you reread my initial post I actually said to avoid a psychiatrist because they push meds. And thats awesome that he seemed to respond so positively to the individual attention.. I know its hard to make time with 2 kids, but I think thats a great start. login to post comments
Some kids NEED medication, mine is one of them, and taking children to a psychiatrist does NOT guarantee you walk out with a prescription login to post comments
How do you react when he is violent? I mean exactly what do you do? Is it the same every time? Is it dependent on the degree of violence(i.e. playing sword games inside the house vs. breaking things vs. hurting people)? Does he know what the consequences are if he breaks your rules? rosie wrote: This is also definitely something to think about/talk to him about (the good touch/bad touch conversation is SO important!)Is it possible he's getting hit/hurt by someone, an adult or another child, and he's just taking it out in this way? login to post comments
It's gotten progressively worse and I think is a direct response to media. As far as response - I will just remove the item he is hitting things with and tell him he can have it back "tomorrow". I know a whole day seems like a long time, but he has other swords, and he will go and get one and play with it outside, which is also what I'm encouraging him to do thanks to advice from you mamas. The "fighting bad guys" has become an outside activity, and this is great because not only is he not trashing the house, but he's playing outside more! I also got him a stack of new movies that aren't violent but still interesting to him, and he's been more focused on those than the swordfighting ones. So I think things are better. login to post comments
mamasgirl2007, I think you may be interested in researching the affects of television on children under the age of 3. TV is completely unnecessary for them and is actually detrimental for their cognitive development. I would highly doubt a 15 month old child is actually learning anything from those shows. More than likely they are probably just being hypnotized by the glamor of all the colours. login to post comments
Jube wrote: mamasgirl2007, I think you may be interested in researching the affects of television on children under the age of 3. TV is completely unnecessary for them and is actually detrimental for their cognitive development. I would highly doubt a 15 month old child is actually learning anything from those shows. More than likely they are probably just being hypnotized by the glamor of all the colours. actually my 15 month old daughter has learned her colors shapes ABCs names of animals from watching those shows so its safe to say that i disagree with your reasoning Jube but i do agree that television is not a great way to teach things like this to ALL kids for some its just easier to learn like my daughter for instance.Also i had my daughter tested for advancement in her developmental stage when she was 10months old and the test showed that she is as advanced as a 2.5 year old is, so she is bout a year and some odd months more advanced than other babies her age is. like i said i'm not saying that you are completely wrong about the television thing Jube but i know that my daughter learns easier from watching the shows on noggin than she does learning from me. proud mama as of june 2nd 2007 login to post comments
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I know it sounds counter-intuitive, but have you thought of enrolling him in karate? The teachers usually stress how fighting is only for self-defense and teach self-discipline to the kids.
Is it possible he's getting hit/hurt by someone, an adult or another child, and he's just taking it out in this way?
I would prevent him from watching tv, movies or video games with any violence until you get this under control. Maybe he would benefit from a childrens book about how hands aren't for hitting.
Good Luck.